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Land Use and Development Commission
Minutes
November 1, 2011
7:00 PM
Minutes of the Land Use and Development Commission regular meeting held at Chubbuck City Hall, 5160
Yellowstone, November 1, 2011.
Chairman Pete Anderson; Commission Members: Rodney Burch, George Merrill, Jay Buttars, Morris Kinghorn,
James Eborn, Ron Horner, Jason Mendenhall, Bryan Nield. City Staff: Steven Smart. Attorney: Tom Holmes.
Secretary: Ranelle Simmons
Chairman Anderson called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
Anderson asked if any commissioners had a conflict of interest within the items before the board tonight.
Nield led the commission in the Pledge of Allegiance.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: September 13, 2011
Anderson entertained a motion to approve the minutes as mailed. Kinghorn moved the minutes of September
13, 2011 meeting be approved as mailed; Mendenhall seconded. The full authority approved.
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING:
1. An application by Allen Romriell, 4741 Afton Place, Chubbuck, Idaho 83202 for a Conditional Use
Permit for storage units. The property is located at the 5200 block of Mesquite, Chubbuck, Idaho
83202
Rodney Burch with Dioptra, 4741 Afton Place, Chubbuck, ID 83202 is representing Mr. Romriell with this
application.
Burch clarified that it is only the back 2/3 portion of the property where the storage units will be built. Design
Review staff at the city approved the modified design with better traffic flow and security. Conditions are
defined by ordinance for self service storage facility including fire suppression around the building, landscaping
requires 17 trees and 6' high privacy fence. If RV storage is added to the facility it has to be covered. There will
be a total of 270 storage units in four sizes, the smallest being 7'x10' and the largest 10'x20'.
Anderson asked in larger unit will they allow vehicle storage. Burch said the doors aren't wide enough to allow
a vehicle. There is a stipulation in the ordinance if vehicles are stored.
Anderson asked for comment from City Staff.
Smart mentioned there is a criteria that has to be followed for storage units.
Anderson asked for questions of City Staff: No testimony offered.
Anderson opened the Public Hearing.
Leslie Johnson, 295 Adams. Homeowner for 15 years concerned that bringing commercial to her backyard
lowers the property value. Once the commercial property is brought into the area away from Yellowstone the
property value will go down.
Faye Burrows, 302 Adams. Have concerns with the irrigation ditch. Please make sure it remains useable.
Worried about the upkeep of the property where the storage units will be.
Anderson closed the Public Hearing, and returned to Burch for comment. No additional comments.
Anderson brought the discussion back to the Commission for discussion. No further discussion.
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Anderson explained that this motion will stay with the Land Use Commission so the motion will either be in
favor of the Conditional Use Permit or denying or accepting the Conditional Use Permit with additional
conditions added.
Eborn asked what the width of the access into the buildings is.
Burch explained it is the same as an existing city street standard. Interior roads are 20' with a 7' landscape
buffer.
Holmes mentioned that in the Design Review meeting it was discussed that the fence should go in first. Burch
explained water lines will be on next year's schedule with concrete for the units and fencing starting this
winter.
Anderson asked if they would maintain the irrigation ditch.
Burch clarified that by ordinance the 350' of ditch that is on the property will be piped underground. Anderson
wonders about the trees and roots disturbing the irrigation pipe.
Burch explained that the trees will probably be removed primarily because the Fire Department is concerned
with access onto the property.
Eborn asked for clarification on the type of fence.
Burch explained it will be a 6' chain link fence with privacy slats. The fence was chosen because of easier
maintenance.
Holmes added that if a fence has a single slat it is a screen fence, a self storage facility requires solid fence
which has double slats making it a privacy fence.
Mendenhall asked when the entrance will be paved.
Burch answered this area cannot be a track off. If dust is an issue, it will be have to be treated.
Anderson noted there are five conditions that should be placed on this permit: ditch will be maintained and
piped, the fence be constructed first, coordinating trees with Fire Department, place a requirement that the
fence meet privacy fence standards with prior approval from the city before being built and finally that a paved
roadway is a requirement, not necessarily with curb and gutter.
Anderson entertained a motion. Kinghorn made a motion that the Conditional Use Permit be granted based
upon the specifications on the ditch be maintained and covered. That the fence be built first and meet the
standards and approval of a privacy fence. Pavement in place and tree location is coordinated with the Fire
Department. Based on those stipulations motion is being made.
Holmes asked for clarification on the paving. Does the motion want the entrance at Mesquite paved or the
entire facility paved?
Kinghorn wants entire storage unit facility paved. Merrill seconded the motion.
Eborn asked for clarification on the paving time frame.
Anderson stated the paving will need to be in place before Certificate of Occupancy is issued.
Burch asked for clarification that the entire storage unit paved.
Anderson stated yes.
Roll Call Vote: Merrill — Yes; Buttars — Yes; Kinghorn — Yes; Eborn — Yes; Horner — Yes; Mendenhall —
Yes; Nield — Yes; Anderson — Yes.
Motion carries. You have the right to appeal to the City Council within 25 days of this meeting.
2. Proposed ordinance repealing Section 18.06.220, enacting a new section 18.06.220 to define a salvage
site, enacting Section 18.06.195 to define a recycling center and amending Section 18.08.040 to add
recycling center to the schedule of general controls.
Anderson asked for comments from City Staff: No testimony offered.
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Anderson asked for comments from City Attorney Tom Holmes: No testimony was offered.
Anderson opened Public Hearing: No testimony was offered.
Anderson brought the discussion back to the commission.
Anderson explained this is a recommendation to the City Council to adopt the ordinance repealing and
enacting.
Anderson asked for discussion from the commission.
Nield commented on the presentation by United Metals and the positive aspect they will bring to the City of
Chubbuck.
Anderson entertained a motion. Mendenhall made a motion to recommend to the City Council the approval of
repealing Section 18.06.220, enacting a new section 18.06.220 to define a salvage site, enacting Section
18.06.195 to define a recycling center and amending Section 18.08.040 to add recycling center to the schedule
of general controls. Horner seconded the motion.
Anderson asked for discussion from the commission. No further discussion.
Roll Call Vote: Merrill — Yes; Buttars — Yes; Kinghorn — Yes; Eborn — Yes; Horner — Yes; Mendenhall —
Yes; Nield — Yes; Anderson — Yes.
Motion carries and will go before the City Council on November 22, 2011. You have the right to appeal
to the City Council within 25 days of this meeting.
3. An application by the City of Chubbuck, 5160 Yellowstone Chubbuck, Idaho, 83202 for Conditional Use
Permits to construct three new communication towers located at well 4, well 5 and the Sorrell Lift
Station.
Steve Smart explained that for years the use of radio frequency communications between well or lift station
have been used to control and acquire operating data for those sites. Federal communication has now
required moving all the telecommunication to a newer frequency. The new frequencies are a higher frequency.
There are three sites where the city has been having continuing frequency problems. Sorrel Lift station, 5625
Sorrel, will have a 40 foot antenna. Well 5, 4070 Hawthorne, near Ridge Wind Assisted Living Center will have
an 80 foot tower. The communication there has been sporadic and now with the Allstate's new building,
communication is even more compromised. The tower will be on the east side of the well house. Well 4
located at the corner of Independence and West Chubbuck Road, 4803 Independence. It is also having an
emergency generator installed and it will require a 64 foot tower.
Eborn questions if the trees aren't going to be an issue in 5 years. Suggestion is putting three eighty foot
towers instead of trimming trees in the future.
Kinghorn clarified that the towers will be mounted in a concrete foundation.
Anderson asked if the city stayed with the land line what are we looking at as the financial impact.
Smart remembers that the conversion 20 years ago was very expensive. The biggest issue now is to be able to
transmit the data needed with minimal manpower.
Anderson asked about fiber.
Smart said it could be done but once again it is very expensive. The city is looking at fiber going between City
Hall and the Fire Station and the cost estimate is $30,000.00 for % mile.
Anderson stated this is a preventative measure. If the lift station goes out the sewer backs up. If the wells stop
working no one can get water. This is a huge magnitude if a well or a lift station fails.
Smart explains data is fed back to City Hall from the towers so the emergency callout would be made to staff
or police dispatch. One computer is monitoring the city.
Eborn asked for frequency.
Smart noted that it would be either700 mhz or 12.5 ghz.
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Anderson opened the Public Hearing.
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Logan Robinson, 5354 W Old Hwy 91 Pocatello, Idaho 83204, owns the vacant lot on the northwest corner of
Hawthorne and Quinn. Concerns are lower property value, hindrance to the area and inappropriate to have in
front of a rest home. City of Chubbuck needs to explore other avenues.
Shad Johnson, 5627 Sorrel Drive, lives just north of the lift station in question. Have questions more than
comments. Will there be guywires? Can children climb the tower? The lift station is right next to my driveway
what are the guidelines for building a fence? Communication from the tower has been sporadic; will the new
tower allow better communications?
Tower will only be 40' from my home so how sound is the structure so it won't fall on my home?
Smart answered with no guywires. There will be climb shield on all three sides so children will not be able to
climb the tower. If a fence is build a gate would need to give city crew access. The taller towers will allow for
communications to better reach the 120' tower at the city offices.
Jynnae Smedley, 5624 Sorrell Drive, our home is southeast of the lift station, the tower will be right next to
our mailbox. Concerns are similar to Shad Johnsons. Primary concern is property and resale value of the home.
We are concerned with children climbing the tower. Understand the communication issue is necessary. Not
excited about having a huge tower in our yard. Wish there was another option.
Anderson explained that a climb shield will not allow children to climb the tower unless the shield is removed.
Anderson asked for any other public comment: No testimony was offered
Anderson closed the Public Hearing.
Any other comments from City Staff: Smart explained the base for the tower at Sorrel Lift Station is 4 foot
square and 5' deep. Anchors will cure in the concrete for about a month.
Anderson asked for the dimensions on each side of the triangular tower.
40 foot tower sides are 2.5' and tapers up to 9 ".
Anderson read into record the letter from Tracy Mariani, 4141 Hawthorne Road, Pocatello, Idaho 83202.
Objecting to the tower being placed near her property because of reduced property value and electromagnetic
radiation at well 5 located on Hawthorne Avenue.
Anderson brought the discussion back to the commission for discussion.
Eborn asked if the setbacks are being met.
Holmes clarified that ordinance 18.13.110 states set -backs are not necessary.
Horner asked if there will be a fence around the towers.
Smart said well 4 will be inside an existing fence. Sorrel Lift Station will not have a fence. Well 5 is totally open
because of the nature of the assisted living center development around it.
Mendenhall asked if the city would be opposed to fencing the Sorrel site even with the shield so the children
would not be able to access the tower at all.
Smart doesn't think it would be a problem.
Eborn wonders if an engineering certificate will be available.
Smart noted for this style of tower the manufacturer cannot supply a certificate.
Buttars asked currently how the communication is being made.
Smart stated the antenna tower has a 2" pipe anchored to the eave or the control panel.
Anderson noted this is basically the same technology as the cell phone. Problem with copper line is it is
considered a "dirty" line because of the loss of data. There are very few fiber lines in this community. Cable
One's minimum charge is $350.00 a month for the use of their cable, charges can go up depending on the
amount of data being transmitted over the line.
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Smart commented the use of radio frequency over the years has been reliable and the city has been pleased.
Anderson entertained a motion. Mendenhall made a motion that the application is approved to construct the
three communication towers located at well 4, well 5 and Sorrel Lift Station that we waive the applicable
restrictions on it for approval with the condition that a fence be constructed around the Sorrel Lift Station with
city staff making the decision on the type of fence. Buttars seconded the motion
Anderson asked if there was any more discussion.
Discussion followed resulting in an amended motion.
Mendenhall made the motion to approve the application by City of Chubbuck for the Conditional Use Permit
for the construction of three communication towers located at well 4, well 5 and Sorrell Lift Station. Buttars
second the motion.
Roll Call Vote: Merrill — Yes; Buttars — Yes; Kinghorn — Yes; Eborn — No; Horner — Yes; Mendenhall —
Yes; Nield —Yes; Anderson —Yes.
Motion carries. You have the right to appeal to the City Council within 25 days of this meeting.
Anderson entertained a motion to adjourn; Kinghorn made the motion. Me nh II eco ded. All voted to
adjourn at 8:45 PM.
derson, Chairman
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