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Home My WebLink About008 19 76PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES August 19, 1976 Minutes of a recessed meeting, August 5, 1976, of the Planning and Zoning Commission held in the city municipal building August 19, 1976. Present: Chairman Jack J. Menard, Commission members Dwain Kinghorn, Dick Anderson and Jim Chatterton, Clifford Payne. Larry Rawlins and Dee Stalder were excused. Meeting called to order at 8:20 p.m. PUBLIC HEARING ITEM: Kent J. Parrish, President of Land Investments, Inc. requests a variance be granted to permit development of a trailer park west of the Fort Hall Canal and east of Hiline Road directly east of Mobile Manor on real property more particularly described as follows: Beginning at a point that is West 415 ft. more or less from West 1/16 corner on the North line of Section 11, T. 6S., R. 34 E., B.M. Bannock County, Idaho; said point falls in the middle of the Fort Hall Canal as it intersects said section line, thence southerly along the centerline of said canal a distance of 1,550.0 ft., more or less, thence westerly, parallel to the North Section line a distance of 80.0 ft., more or less to the centerline of said Hiline Road to an intersection with the North line of Said Section 11, thence easterly along the section line 110.0 ft., more or less to the Point of Beginning, Contains 5.6 acres more or less. Chairman Jack J. Menard read a letter from Robert L. Thompson, P.E. of James Voeller and Associates, Inc. Letter attached to minutes. The Commission Members discussed each point of the letter with Klane Forsgren, Engineer for Land Investments, Inc. Jack Menard asked Mr. Forsgren about his meeting with the people of the Fort Hall Canal Company. He said that the Canal Company was concerned about the future use and need of the Canal. He said that they felt some type of fence should be put up between the trailers and the canal. He said that Max Parrish had been agreeable to this. A discussion followed on the access roads, the parking areas and the storage areas also the future expansion of Hiline Road. Chairman Jack Menard then tabled the Land Investment, Inc. request until they submit plans that conform with City of Chubbuck Ordinance # 107 and the Hiline Raod expansion. HAWTHORNE TERRACE SUBDIVISION: Chairman Jack Menard read the City Council Minutes of August 10, 1976 pertaining to the Hawthorne Terrace Apartments. Chairman Menard and Commission Member Kinghorn questioned the legality of individual owners being on private sewer lines. Commission Member Dick Anderson made a motion to pass the plans to the City Council with the Planning and Zoning Commissions approval and that they have an alternate Engineer check out the sewer easement. Jim Chatterton seconded the motion with all commission members voting in favor. AZTEC ACRES SUBDIVISION: Mr. Paul Remay and Mr. Mike Bright presented the Plans of the Aztec Acres Subdivision. This subdivision lies within the one mile limit of the City of Chubbuck - therefor under city jurisdiction. A discussion followed as to the size of the lots - they do not meet the one acre requirement of the City of Chubbuck Subdivision Ordinance. Mr. Klane Forsgren, Engineer for the Aztec Acres Subdivision, discussed the size of the lots and also the well and pump. The Commission Members questioned Mr. Forsgren about the water supply to the subdivision. He stated that it would be more than adequate. The Commission Members asked that 6" water lines be installed rather than 3" so that at a future time if the City of Chubbuck should annex this area the streets would not have to be torn up. Commission Member Jim Chatterton made a motion to submit the Preliminary Plat to the City CounCil for approval with the notes attached to the Plat to be reviewed. Dick Anderson seconded the motion with all members voting in favOr. SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR UNITED CAMPGROUND AREA: Mr. Russ Konrad and Mr. Noel Breneman presented plans for the development of a Motel, Resturant and Apartment Complex at the former United Campground Area. Mr. Konrad asked that they review his plans and give him the approval to start on two of the Apartments. Jack Menard asked Mr. Breneman what his plans were for the paved road that is already in the area. Mr. Breneman stated that he would prefer to retain this road as a private road as he only has the property leased. A discussion followed on the drainage in the area, the water system, where the water lines should be placed and the placing of fire hydrants. Mr. Konrad asked for a letter stating the requirements that are necessary for him to start developing two of the apaprtments. Mr. Menard said that he and Mr. Forsgren would prepare a letter for him so that they could proceed with their plans. Dick Anderson moved the meeting be adjourned at 10:40 p.m. Jack J. Menard, Chairman othy L..~rd, Secretary d[?~i VO[~LL~,~ & ASSOCIATES, i~C. E~jineering - Planning - Surveying 600 E. Oak Phone (208) 233-7341 P. O. Box 846 Pocatello, Idaho 83201 At~ust 18, 1976 City of Chubbuck At'tn: ,~[r. Jack Menard Pocatello, Idaho 83201 Re: 5bbile ~i~nor .Pl~%ension Dear Sirs; Hiline Road will be a four (4) lane highway in the near future and all future development along tIiline should be planned with this in mind. The Legal Centerline of Hiline Road is not established on the preliminary plat filed. If the Centerline sho~m were used as the true Centerline and a forty foot half street right of way was laid out on the plat, 0.6 acres of the planned usable acreage would be road rigflt of way. ~]~e west right of way for the Fort Itall Canal varies in width from 120' at Cht~buck Road, to ah~ut 250' at a point 1070 feet south of Chubbuck Road, to about 95' at the south end of the proposed mobile home park. ~is places the entire n~bile home park within the right of way of the canal. The canal company therefore has access rights and any development within the right of way must be approved by the Fort Hall Canal The canal barfl( is about 12' higher in elevation than the proposed mobile home locations. Tne water ele- vation in the canal would be about 4' higher than the mobile hon~s and if the canal b~unk was 12' wide at the top smd the side slopes were held to a 1½'1 slope, the entire 50' of right of way shown 'on the proposed plat would be used up. ~]~is would place the row of mobile homes adjacent to the bank right at the toe of the fill slope. They would not have back yards. Page 2 All of the proposed storage area would be within the 80' right of way of Hiline Road or within 50' of the canal centerline. Part of the storage area would be on the fill bank of the canal. Access to the storage area would have to be from Hiline Road. Six access areas are shown on the plat. To comply with the proposed ordinances and existing agreements between the City of C?,ubbuck, Pocat~llo, and Bannock County, there should be only be two access areas onto Hiline Road from the pl~posed development. Chubbuck ordinance #107 states that all mobile hor~s mu,~t abut on a roadway. It is questionable whether 6 of the proposed units ,abut onto a roadway. The north parking area would only be about 10 feet deep when Hiline right of way is extended to 80 feet. The second parking area from the north ~ould be 30 feet deep, and the most southern parking area would vary from 30 feet to 12 feet deep. After having reviewed the preliminary plat of ~.~bile ~anor Extension, I feel that the area to be developed is not large enough to handle 24 mobile home units. ~he propOSed ~,bbile ~tanor F~%ension should be plmmed with the 80' Hiline right of way in mind taking .into account the change in elevation which will occure ag- ainst the canal bank. Two fire hydrants would berequired for an area over 1,000' in width, the plan just shows one. If I can be of further assistance in this matter, please feel free to contact me. Sincerely, /~ Robert L. Thompson, P.E. JAMES VOE!,I,F~t & ASSOCIATES, INC. cc: City of Chubbuck Jack Menard RLT/sa