HomeMy WebLinkAbout06 09 1992 CMCOUNCIL MEETING MINUTES 131
June 9, 1992
Minutes of regular meeting held in the city municipal building,
June 9, 1992.
Present: Mayor John O. Cotant, Council members Leroy S. Quick,
Steven M. England, David A. Landon, W. Dean Wood, Attorney
Thomas J. Holmes, Public Works Director Steven M. Smart and
City Clerk Ron C. Conlln.
Meeting was called to order at 7:32 p.m. by Mayor Cotant.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - Mayor Cotant asked for corrections or
additions to the special meeting minutes of May 26, 1992, and
regular meeting minutes of May 26, 1992.
Councilman Wood moved to approve regular meeting minutes of
May 26, 1992 as read. Councilman Landon seconded. All council
members present voted in favor of motion.
Councilman England moved to approve special meeting minutes
of Nay 26, 1992 as read. Councilman Landon seconded. All
council members present voted in favor of motion.
PRELIMINARY PLAT - TYHEE ESTATES - An application by R. A. Albers,
10250 Oakshire Drive, Carmel, California for a review of a
preliminary plat of Tyhee Estates, a subdivision located north
of Tyhee Road, between Moonglow and Hiline Roads.
At last council meeting, Council tabled the Tyhee Estates
Preliminary Plat until they had a chance to discuss with
Bannock County Commissioners, a possible sewer district, being
created Jn the area.
Mayor Cotant stated he would like to see what is going to
happen with discussions about sewer district in the area,
prior to a decision being made.
R. A. Albers, 10250 Oakshire Drive, Carmel, California
stated he received this property in a bankruptcy settlement,
the 80 acres involved here, is his lives work. Mr. Albers
explained how his applying for the Tyhee Estates Preliminary
Estates came about. Mr. Albers said he thought he did
everything required of him, no problems were brought to his
attention, so he thought the preliminary plat would be
approved. Mr. Albers said he has invested time, effort and
money in the project. Mr. Albers said he has been to all the
planning agencies, they all approved, and feels the
application should be approved by the C~ty of Chubbuck. Mr.
Albers felt most of the problems with the septic tanks in the
area are related to residents not following proper maintenance
procedure. Mr. Albers said he had the area properly tested by
the U.S. Soil Conservation Service and the State Health
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TYHEE ESTATES PRELIHZNARY PLAT - (cont.)
Department, the conclusions were the soils in the area are
acceptable, the department gave their approval to install
individual sewer systems in the subdivision. Mr. AlDers stated
it would be too costly to tie into the City sewer system, the
cost of hooking to the City sewer system will make the lots
unaffordab]e. Mr. Albers said he will size the septic tanks
to the worse possible scenario. Mr. AlDers said, if the
Council denies the application, the decision will break him
financially.
Richard Nelson, 13032 Hoonglow Lane said a lot of the
residents in the area put too small of septic systems in when
they installed them, Mr. Nelson said, these are the residents
that are having problems. Mr. Ne]son spoke in favor of the
Tyhee Subdivision Preliminary Plat approval. Mr. Nelson
stated, if the right size septic system is installed and
proper maintenance performed on the system, there should be
no proD]em with the failing of the systems.
Gene Hancock, Gate City Real Estate said there is a demand for
this type of ranch style home at this time. Mr. Hancock
discussed several questionnaires sent to residents in the
area.
Mr, Hancock said most residents were very positive about the
septic systems installed.
Steve Pew, District Health Department said the main issue of
concern on the preliminary plat Js the soils issue, are they
acceptable for subsurface sewage disposal. Mr. Pew said the
District Health Department approved the soil for subsurface
sewage disposal. Mr. Pew said the Health Department will
require all drain fills, be sized larger than they normally
would be. There will be no driveways over the drain fill.
Mr. Pew said there are other issues that need to be addressed
before the prellminary plat is approved by District Health
Department:
1. Will not allow flood irrigation over a drain fill.
2. Solid waste issue - District Health Department wants
a letter from the County stating the residents
sanitation in the subdivision can be handled.
3. Cost study on the extension of the City sewer to the
subdivisfion, compared to the cost of ~nstalling septic
systems.
Mr. Nelson suggested the sewer be installed to come out the
side of the home. Installing it this way will help hooking
onto the City sewer line, when, and if, the City line gets to
the subdivision.
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TYHEE ESTATES PRELZNINARY PLAT - (cont. -
Attorney Kline stated Mr. Albers would prefer the preliminary
plat not be tabled again, and discussed reasons why.
Councilman England expressed concern, one of these days,
there might be a problem with one or more of the septic tanks,
leaking into the aquifer, causing bad water, if this happens,
residents will ask the council, why did they approve the
subdqvision without looking at alternatives.
Councilman England stated, this council is on record of
trying to get the applicants to look at alternatives other
than septic tanks. Councilman England said it might be cost
prohibitive to install the C~ty sewer system in this
subdivision at this time, but, it is not going to get any less
costly in the future.
PWD Smart stated, if everyone in the area participated in
bringing the City sewer system to the subdivision, the cost
would be approx. $6,300.00 per resident.
Councilman Landon said this council is in favor of any growth
in the area, but, when reviewing an application, the council
is responsible to look at all alternatives. Councilman Landon
said he is in favor of approving the preliminary plat
application, stating the District Health Department approved
the sewer.
Councilman Quick stated he will vote to approve the
preliminary plat subject to, Bannock County and District
Health Department approval of the septic system.
Tim Shurtliff, Shurtliff Engineering presented septic system
costs, as compared to extending the City sewer system to the
subdivision.
Considerable discussion about fire protection water.
Councilman England moved to approve the application of R. A.
Albers for a preliminary plat of Tyhee Subdivision located
north of Tyhee and H~line Rds., sub3ect to the following: 1)
No curb, gutter and sidewalks required. 2) No fire hydrants,
but provision be provided for future protection. 3} Roadway
be built to Bannock County Standards. 4) Investigate a
common water system ~n the area. 5) City of Chubbuck is not
approving the septic sewer system, but, is deferring to
Bannock County and the District Health Department for their
approval. Councilman Landon seconded. All council members
voted in favor of motion.
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ANNEXATION ORDINANCE - An ordinance annexing certain lands to be
included within the boundaries and jurisdictional limits of
the City of Chubbuck, specifying the zoning classification
which shall be applied to said lands newly annexed to the
City, directing the Chubbuck City Clerk to comply with the
filing requirements contained in Idaho Code Section 63-2215.
Alec Alenskis, 5205 Whitaker Road stated we went through this
same process two years ago. At that time, because of the
hardship of Mr. Alenskis having to hook to the city sewer, the
city agreed not annex the Alenskis property until either,
Franklin Brisoe hooked to the sewer, or Mr. Alenskls'S septic
tank went out.
Mr. Alenskis stated his septic sewer system is working fine
at this time.
Mr. Alenskis's property is not completely surrounded by city,
Franklin Briscoe across the street is not in the city.
After discussion, the council decided against annexing the
Alec Alenskis property, 5205 Whitaker Road until, 1) Franklin
Briscoe property is annexed to city, which will make the Alec
Alenskis property surrounded by city. 2) Alec Alenskis septic
sewer system fails and Mr. Alenskis requests to be annexed,
NEIDER SUBDIVISION STREET REPAIR Dale Nield, 4914 Spraker
expressed concern about the way the city is repa3ring the
streets in Neider Subdivision.
PWD Smart gave a report on why and how the streets are
repaired.
FIREWORKS PERMIT - Greg & Sherri Madsen, 4641 Tahoe Place have
applied for a permit to sell fireworks at 4805 Yellowstone
Ave.
After review, there was no fireworks permit application for
Greg & Sherri Madsen on the agenda. City Clerk Conl3n thought
the application might be in the office somewhere.
Councilman Landon moved to approve a fireworks permit to Greg
and Sherri Madsen to sell fireworks at 4805 Yellowstone Ave,,
subject to: 1) FC Cary Campbell approval of application. 2)
Insurance requ3rements met, 3) Attending meeting at Chubbuck
Fire Station, Wednesday, June 17, 1992 at 7:30 p.m. Councilman
Wood seconded. All council members voted in favor of motion.
CHUBBUCK PRIDE COMMITTEE - Mary Harker was present representing
the Chubbuck Pride Committee, Mrs, Harker gave a report on
Chubbuck Pride Awards.
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SEICAA REPORT - Mary Harker was present to report on a change
by Governor Andrus, in the Community Action Agency Child Care
Program.
Mayor Cotant told Mrs. Harker, the city will follow up with
the suggestions.
ORDINANCE #376 - An ordinance adding Section 18.32.030 (0) to the
Chubbuck Municipal Code to provide standards for vehicle sales
sites.
Mayor Cotant read Ordinance #376 by title only for the third
reading, one ~n full.
Councilman Landon moved to adopt Ordinance ¢376, eliminating
paving requirement, (c) of (0) in Section 1. Councilman Wood
seconded. Roll Call Vote: Quick, yes; England, yes; Landon,
yes; Wood, yes.
FIREWORKS PERMIT APPLICATIONS - The follow3ng applicants have
applied to sell fireworks in f~reworks stand at the following
location:
1. Anita Patton, Pyrodyne American Corp to locate at: 4215
Yellowstone Ave.
2. Lily Tydeman to locate at 5008 Yellowstone Ave,
3. Richard Hansen to locate at 4845 Yellowstone Ave.
FC Campbell recommended the manager for each fireworks stand
be at the Chubbuck Fire Station on Wednesday, June 17, at 7:30
p.m. to d3scu$s the ordinances as they pertain to each
operator.
All insurance requirements have been met by the applicants.
Councilman Landon moved to approve above fireworks permit
applications as presented subject to 1) Fire Department
inspecting, and approving fireworks stands prior to opening.
2) Applicants meeting at the Chubbuck Fire Station on
Wednesday, June 17, at 7:30 p.m. to discuss the ordinances as
they pertain to each operator. Councilman England seconded.
All council members voted in favor of motion.
CHANDLER PROPERTY ANNEXATION ORDINANCE - An ordinance annexing
certain lands to be included within the boundaries and
jurisdictional limits of the City of Chubbuck.
After discussion, the Council decided to table the Chandler
Property Annexation Ordinance until the June 23, 1992 Council
Meeting.
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CLAIMS - Computer print-out claims presented to Mayor Cotant and
Council,
Councilman Landon moved to approved computer print-out claims
as presented, Councilman Wood seconded. All council members
voted in favor of motion.
GENERAL DISCUSSION -
At
1. AIC Convention in Boise, June 17, 18 & 19th., 1992
Councilman Landon said Mike Bird, American Heritage asked
when the city is going to install Kay Park, he said he
would be willing to help.
"Tell it to City Hall" letter was received from Chuck
Hayden, 5178 Stuart Ave. advising the city there is a lot
of speeding going on Stuart and James Ave, Zt was decided
the Police Department needs to talk with childrens parents
in the area,
Discussion about denial of Charlie Frasure's conditional
use permit by the Land Use and Development Commission for
storage sheds on Alton Ave. Councilman England suggested,
maybe there is something we can do to make some kind of
compromise. Mayor Co%ant stated we talk about it at
Staff Meeting in morning.
10:36 p.m., Councilman Wood moved, Councilman Quick seconded,
with full council approval to adjourn meeting·
Ron c. Conlin, City Clerk