HomeMy WebLinkAbout03 08 1994 CMCOUNCIL MEETING MINUTES
March 8, 1994
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Minutes of regular meeting held at city municipal building,
March 8, 1994.
Present: Mayor John O. Cotant, Council members Leroy S. Qu%ck,
Steven M. England, W. Dean Wood, Marvin C. Gunter, Attorney
Thomas J. Holmes, Public Works Director Steven M. Smart and
City Clerk Ron C. Conlino
Meeting was called to order at 7:3~ p.m. by Mayor Cotant.
INVOCATION was given by Bishop Luther Perkins, Bringhurst Ward, The
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Mayor Cotant asked for corrections or
additions to regular meeting minutes of February 22, 1994.
Councilman Wood moved to approve regular meeting minutes of
February 22, 1994 as read. Councilman Quick seconded. All
council members voted in favor of motion.
PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR WHITAKER FARMS ASSN. PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
An application by Whitaker farm Assn., a limited partnership,
280 S. Arthur for a preliminary plat for Whltaker Farm Planned
Unit Development at 4915 Whitaker Rd. The proper%y is
presently zoned, Industrial (I), and Limited Residential,
(R-2).
This proposal was tabled from the February 8, 1994 Council
Meeting.
Paul Jensen, Whitaker Farm Assn. stated he is trying to make
this a well designed and well planned community.
Mr. Jensen stated he did not know what the City wanted with
the road to the south to E. Chubbuck Rd. Mr. Jensen felt the
road has a large impact on the design and project.
Mr. Jensen felt the neighborhood, sewer and land will not feel
a difference between, 88 units, 98 units or 128 units. Mr.
Jensen felt the density should not be an issue. Mr. Jensen
presented to council, four amended plans for the proposed
Planned Unit Development.
Mr. Jensen requested approval of the modification presented,
Modification - No. 2 Masterplan with construction approval for
Phase I which includes 11 units.
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WHITAKER FARMS ASSN. PUD PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN - (cont.)
Mr. Jensen stated it is critical the plan be approved because
of interest rate changes and construction season
consideration. After decisions are made by neighbors (relative
to granting easements), comprehensive plan authors, land use
development commission members, and city council members, the
final detailed PUD master plan will be prepared reflecting the
roadway decisions and detailing all improvements.
Mr. Jensen said each time a unit is deleted it cuts the profit
of the project. Mr. Jensen said it also creates a burden on
the owners having to maintain same area with less owners.
Mr. Jensen responded to comments made about fire fighting
concerns, also about installation of a path all around the
project, which could be used for access. Home owners Assn.
would ask that back yards not be fenced.
Fred Lewis, 611 Vern said there have been some changes in the
project, by doing away with some storage units, but, this did
not lower the density. Mr. Lewis stated, if allowed the
Project should have some kind of buffer between residents
there now and project. Mr. Lewis reminded the Council the
bonus to the density allowed in PUD Ordinance, can only be
given if the density bonus is earned.
Randy Smith, Attorney for Paul Jensen explained Paul Jensen
could, if he wanted to, make the density much higher than
proposed. Mr. Smith felt the PUD Code is not very clear.
Mr. Smith stated Mr. Jensen has compromised as much as he can.
Fred Lewis stated he calculated the density formula, and
came somewhere within 70 unit range, not counting the various
bonuses. Somewhere in the $0 range if full bonuses are given.
Mr. Lewis said that since we have a PUD Ordinance the City
should impose an R-2 lot density. Mr. Lewis said this is not
an Industrial Use of this land, but, a Residential Use.
Mr. Lewis stated the property owners to the north will be
willing to give the City easements for the road to the north.
Mayor Cotant stated the Comprehensive Plan is being reviewed,
there is discussion about stubbing out streets to the north
and south. As the Comprehensive Plan develops, and if the
street is required at that point in time, easements in place,
etc., then Mr. Jensen would run the street to the north and
south.
Mr. Jensen stated 100 units is not unreasonable.
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WHITAKER FARM ASSN PUD PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN - (cont.)
PWD Smart explained the density formula.
Discussion about off-street parking. Mr. Jensen stated the
units will be built with one garage for each unit, plus one
space in front of garage. RVs will not be allowed, other than
in storage sheds.
Mayor Cotant suggested the entrance off Whitaker Rd. be
narrowed, to protect the homes near the entrance.
Councilman England stated the more self contained the planned
unit development is, the less residents in the area will be
impacted.
Councilman Wood moved to approve the Whltaker Farms Assn.
Preliminary Plat and Preliminary Plan First Phase (11 units),
to grant a conditional use permit to the W~itaker Farm Assn.
to construct a planned unit development as outlined in
modification #2 with density to be calculated on the basis of
an (R-2) calculat~lnding that because it is residential
area that fits ou~Li~ited Family Residential (R-2) zoning as
opposed to our Single Family Residential zoning (R-l), that
the (R-2) density formula should be generally applied to this
project. That it would be applied by taking the gross land
area, subtracting from that the street, which would include
not only the asphalt, but the curb, gutter sidewalk, the
storage area buildings and road, the net area would have
subtracted from it 6000 sq. feet for each of the separate
free standing structures, which presented tonight
would be 17. After subtracting the remaining amount would be
divided by 2,500 sq. ft. which is (R-2) calculations. The
entire area except the storage unit area would be surrounded
by solid six foot fence, with the fence to be designed to tie
in with the character of the planned unit development. The
fence to run as close to Whitaker Rd. as is allowed by site
triangle restrictions. The solid fence be continued out on
both sides to Whitaker Rd. to buffer the surrounding
residential area. That the developer present a plan to keep
the landscaping in middle going to ~-~itaker Rd., reducing the
size of landscaping in middle of road to Whitaker Rd. so a~
to minimize the impact to the two adjacent homes. That the
developer provide in master plan a stub out to the north, to
preserve the potential corridor in event the proposed local
street stays in the comprehensive plan when finalized. That
the access to Chubbuck Rd. be developed prior to the
completion of 5~% of the pro3ect. Property be purchased for
access to Chubbuck Rd. within the one year option. That proof
of that purchase be presented to the city, if 50% development
has not been attained at that time.
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WHITAKER FA1RM ASSN. PUD PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN - (cont.)
Require the stub be provided for the continuance of the road
called for in the comprehensive plan to the north. The
proposed reduced street width for the road as per Mr.
Jensen's sketch. The 30' pavement section with the 20'
landscaped area to the west, the landscaped area to the east
with curb, gutter and sidewalk on the west side also, parking
on the west side. Councilman England seconded. All council
members voted in favor of motion.
A 25% increase in density is allowed, if the following items
are satisfactorily addressed. Code #18.20.080:
A. Landscaping of common area permits 10%.
B. Siting, using visual focal points permits 5%.
C. Design features, streets and architecture permits 10%.
Councilman Gunter stated the pedestrian path around the
project helps considerably. As for the recreation area the
project might be lacking.
Mr. Smith stated, you cannot Judge all projects by country
club standards.
Mayor Cotant said if the pro3ect does not meet the highest
requirements, the developer would not get the full 25%.
Councilman Gunter moved to grant the project an additional
15% density for addressing a, b and c of Code 18.20.080.
Councilman Quick seconded. Roll Call Vote: Quick, yes;
England, no; Wood, no; Gunter, yes; Cotant, yes. Motion
passes.
PUBLIC HEARING JYN PARTNERSHIP - An application by JNY
Partnership, 416 S. 4th. Pocatello for a change of Land Use
District, upon requested annexation to Limited Residential,
(R-2) for approx. 22.5 acres and Commercial (C-l) for 1.8
acres. Property located west side and in the 12000 block of
N. Hiline, West 1/2 of the NW 1/4, SW 1/4, SW 1/4 of Section
35, Township 5S, Range 34, E.B.M.
Mayor Cotant declared the public hearing open.
Tim Shurtliff, Shurtliff Engineering was present, explaining
the proposal.
This property is not contiguous to present City boundary,
annexation would, by necessity, take in other undeveloped
land.
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JYN PARTNERSHIP - (cont.)
Attorney Holmes stated the City does not have legal means to
annex the property.
Mayor Cotant stated the City can provide utility services.
PWD Smart said the proposal is a full mile beyond Siphon Rd.,
serving the proposal with water is going to require a 16"
water line. The sewer will go into the sewer lift statign at
Ellis School.
Mayor Cotant declared the public hearing closed.
Councilman Gunter moved to deny the proposal by JYN
Partnership a change of Land Use District, upon requested
annexation to Limited Residential (R-2), and Commercial
(C-I). Councilman Quick seconded. All council members voted
in favor of motion.
PUBLIC HEARING - JNY PARTNERSHIP PRELIMINARY' PLAT - An application
by JNY Partnership, 416 S. 4th., Pocatello for a preliminary
plat of Homestead Estates Subdivision, a subdivision located
on a tract of land on the west side, and in the 12Q00 block
of N. Hiline Rd.
Fire Chief Campbell suggested land for a 50'x50~ fire station
be required from the developers.
Richard Nelson, 13032 N. Moonglow was not in favor of donating
land for a fire station.
Kent Yost, 13826 Moonglow was not against the fire station
land donation as much as the cost of getting the
infrastructure to the development. Mr. Yost felt a 16"'water
line is not needed. Project Engineer Gerd Dixon did an
analysis on whether a smaller water line than a 16" would
serve the area. Gerd Dixon said the project will require a 16"
water line.
Discussion about ways for JNY Partnership to recoup the costs
of extending the utilities to the proposal.
Mayor Cotant suggested the City look to State for help in
financing, maybe a grant for a project like this. Mayor Cotant
stated the City will look at participating in some way.
After considerable discussion, Councilman Wood moved to table
the JNY Preliminary Plat until the April 12, 1994 Council
Meeting. Councilman England seconded. All council members
voted in favor of motion.
PUBLIC HEARING - VISTA PARK SUBDIVISION - A proposal by Harold L.
Scalf, 5047 Elizabeth Ave. for a change of Land Use District
for Vista Park Subdivision in the westerly portion, from
Agricultural (A) to Single Family, Residential (R-l). Located
on a tract of land north and west of Johannsen Place.
Mayor Cotant declared the public hearing open.
Harold Schalf, 5047 Elizabeth presented the proposal.
Mayor Cotant declared the public hearing closed.
Councilman England moved to approve a change of Land Use
District for Vista Park Subdivision in the westerly portion,
from Agricultural (A) to Single Family, Residential
Councilman Quick seconded. All council members voted in favor
of motion.
PUBLIC HEARING VISTA PARK SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY PLAT An
application by Harold L. Scaif, 5047 Elizabeth Ave. for a
review of a preliminary plat of Vista Park Subdivision, a
subdivision located on a tract of land north and west of
Johannsen Place. Request to vacate the northerly 117' of
Johannsen Place.
Mayor Cotant declared the public hearing open.
Mayor Cotant declared the public hearing closed.
Councilman England moved to approve the Vista Park Subdivision
Preliminary Plat as presented, along with vacating the
northerly 117' of Johannsen Place. Councilman Wood seconded.
All council members voted in favor of motion.
PUBLIC HEARING KASISKA SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY PLAT An
application by John P. Marshall, P.O. Box 250, Pocatello for
review of a preliminary plat of Kasiska Subdivision, west of
4400 and 4500 block, Hawthorne Rd. Property is presently zoned
Limited Residential (R-2).
The Land Use and Development Commission tabled the Preliminary
Plat of Kasiska Subdivision, asking John Marshall to present
an amended preliminary plat for review at the April 7, 1994
Land Use and Development Commission Meeting.
Councilman Wood moved to table the Preliminary Plat of Kasiska
Subdivision until the April 12, 1994 Council Meeting.
Councilman Quick seconded. All council members voted in favor
of motion.
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PUBLIC HEARING - ESPIE 2ND. ADDITION SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY PLAT -
An application by Roy J. Lacey, 12411 N. Corey Lane for review
of a Preliminary Plat of Espie 2nd. Addition Subdivision,
corner of Mathew and Rodney Streets. Property is presently
zoned, Single Family Residential, (R-l).
Mayor Cotant declared the public hearing open.
Tim Shurtliff, Shurtliff Engineering represented the developer
explained that this is the third and final phase of the Espie
Subdivision.
No one was opposed to the proposal.
Councilman Wood made motion to approve the Preliminary Plat
of Espie 2nd. Addition as presented. Councilman England
seconded. All council members voted in favor of motion.
CLAIMS - Computer print-out claims presented to Mayor Cotant and
Council.
Councilman England moved to approve computer print-out claims
as presented. Councilman Wood seconded. All councll members
voted in favor of motion.
BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATION - Gary McIntosh, Weiser, Idaho has
applied for license to sell barb wire sculptures at the corner
of Yellowstone Ave. and Poleline Rd. (Green T Parking Lot).
Councilman Qulck moved to grant a business license to Gary
McIntosh, Barb Wire Sculptures to sell arts and crafts at the
Green Triangle Parking Lot. Councilman Gunter seconded. All
council members voted in favor of motion.
At
11:30 p.m., Councilman England moved, Councilman Gunter
seconded, with full council approval to adjourn meeting.
Ron C. Conlln, City Clerk
MERRILL ~ MERRILL
CHAF~TERED
COUNSELOR$ AN D ATTOR N EYS AT LAW
109 NORTH ARTHUR - 5TH FLOOR
P.O. BOX E)gl
POCAtELLO, ID 83204-0991
April 11, 1994
Thomas J. Holmes
JONES, CHARTERED
P.O. Box 967
Pocatello, ID 83204-0967
Re: Chubbuck City Council Meeting Minutes
Dear Tom:
After reviewing the original minutes of the City Council and the amended minutes you
sent to me, I want to be certain that the City Council is suggesting (by its motion) the
same thing that Paul is understanding by that same motion.
Paul understands that the City Council granted him a conditional use permit to construct
the first phase (11 units) of a planned unit development with the density to be calculated
on the basis of'a regular R~2 calculation (as outlined in the motion) because Paul was
constructing R-2 units. He also understands that (1) he is to provide (in his Master Plan)
a stub out to the north and (2) he is to develop access to Chubbuck Road by purchasing
it within one year and/or the development of 50% of the project, whichever is sooner.
However, Paul further believes (as per the comments of the Council and the absence of
any further language in the motion) that he can:
As is consistent with his 3/8/94 proposal to the Council, amend the
PUD to request approval to build apartments in the west of the PUD,
if the road from Chubbuck Road to the PUD is continued to the
north, using the north stub; thus changing the character of that road
to that of a collector;
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Request approval to eliminate purchasing access to Chubbuck Road
if the comprehensive plan changes and does not provide for such
rpad;
Present the city with a written option to purchase (allowing Paul to
purchase the access to Chubbuck road) over a longer period of time
Thomas J. Holmes
April 11, 1994
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than one year if he doesn't want to purchase the property and/or
easement within the next year.
Please review these understandings which I have explained to you. If Paul is in error,
please contact us.
As a matter of information Paul has now completed his budgeting/estimating efforts for
the project since approval of the project by the City Council. As you will recall, his
estimate on 3/8/94 showed the project as a loss of $119,000.00. Continued efforts to
refine numbers and find economies have resulted in a $116,000.00 profit for the 100 unit,
self-contained Road Budget Model. Changing that base model had the following effects:
100 unit self-contained road
92 unit self-contained road
92 unit Loop Road South
to Chubbuck Road
$116,000.00
2,000.00
(56,00O.00)
If Paul builds only larger units (rather than some of the smaller units envisioned in the
original project), the 92 unit model can be changed to a positive cash flow projection.
The character and layout of the project will remain the same but the units will all be two
story rather than a combination of two and three story. Thus, you can see the impact of
the Council's decision, in effect, changes the project character. Paul is extremely
frustrated by these facts and has agonized over abandoning his target goal of providing
some of the townhouses for the "starter home" market.
If I can be of further assistance herein, please contact me.
Sincerely,
MERRILL & MERRILL, CHARTERED
NRS/iml/1192